"Submission....one male subs' opinion"
Speaker: ticklslav
March 15, 1998

<tcklsHELP> Ladies and Gentlemen.....please welcome an old familiar nick from #Submission....."ticklslav"

* ticklslav waves

<tcklsHELP> Hi everyone! Thanks for coming :)

<tcklsHELP> A couple of weeks ago, two very sexy female subs approached me and asked if I'd lead a discussion on the male perspective on submission. Well, how could I refuse?

<tcklsHELP> To tell you the truth, the request confused me. The motivation behind my male-sub nature is so simple, I just assumed it was obvious and well-known to all.

<tcklsHELP> I enjoy pleasing women. There. That's it. The rest is all just details. Well, most of it anyway :)

<tcklsHELP> Well, I guess if you're going to understand my perspective on my love of submission, youíre going to have know a bit more about me. I'm a 26 year old male and I've been into various aspects of B&D (in r/l) for about 4 years now.

<tcklsHELP> I discovered EFNet #submission only about 8 or 9 months ago. And for those who are curious, I'm working on my Ph.D. in the lovely, but wet, city of Seattle, Washington, USA.

<tcklsHELP> As some may have guessed from my login, I first discovered BDSM through my love of tickling...and especially being tickled...and I discovered the fetish aspects of tickling through the news groups. After a few months of chatting on the news groups, my curiosity got the better of me, so I experimented with this in r/l.

<tcklsHELP> Now, most of you know me as a pretty open-minded guy, but you'll still want to sit down for this one.

<tcklsHELP> My first experiences with tickling as a fetish, which also served as my introduction to BDSM, was with men. When you're a 22 year old, muscular guy, it's VERY easy to find excellent playmates in the tickling community if you're open minded enough to play with gay men...and those of you who know the true definition of the word "fetish" will know just how far this tickling went (but it was still only tickling....**blush**)

<tcklsHELP> I apologize if this is making people uncomfortable, but I think it is crucial to understanding my perspectives on submission.

<tcklsHELP> Through tickling, I discovered my physical attraction to submission.I enjoyed the bondage, the giving up of control, and all the physical sensations that I experienced. I would play as both TOP and bottom and enjoyed both thoroughly.

<tcklsHELP> It was not until my first tickling experience with a woman that I began to discover my true love of submission. Being tied up, tickled, and controlled...both physically and emotionally...by a woman was COMPLETELY different from what I experienced when playing with men.

<tcklsHELP> With men, it was purely physical....the helplessness of being bound added little to the physical sensations...it just made it easier for them to tickle and tease me.

<tcklsHELP> With women, though, I found that I enjoyed tickling for two reason...one was the physical sensations, but I was also EXTREMELY turned on by the fact that the woman was loving what she was doing to me and thoroughly enjoyed my reactions! THAT was what was different. The fact that she was enjoying herself was a major component of the pleasure I derived from it.

<tcklsHELP> Well, that started me on my journey.

<tcklsHELP> My interests in BDSM have evolved well beyond just tickling, but they all center around one simple component...I like it when women derive pleasure from me...whether it is physical (e.g. using me has her little boytoy) or an emotional / control thing for her (e.g. making me beg and plead for her touch, or just enjoys having a strapping young man kneeling at her feet). It is all the same.

<tcklsHELP> In looking back, I see this same theme in my vanilla relationships as well...it is what lies at the heart of my romantic streak...which oftentimes goes as far as outright sappiness.:) I do it not because I expect something to come out of it, but rather because I know it brings her pleasure, which in turn brings me pleasure.

<tcklsHELP> There are limits of course. For instance, I've never done the whole pain/spanking/flogging/whipping type of things. I'm sure if it pleased the right woman (with "the right woman" being the key phrase) I would try them, but those activities (unlike tickling) give me no inherent pleasure in their own right (at least not yet).

<tcklsHELP> So, even though I do enjoy tickling with men, I would never try any pain games with men because such activities give me no pleasure and I derive no pleasure from the act of submitting to a man.

<tcklsHELP> The other limit is respect.

<tcklsHELP> Yes, I LOVE being made to beg...whether it be for sexual release or because I've reached my tickle-limit. But, I don't stand for debasement. I derive ZERO pleasure from serving a woman who does not respect me and my efforts. If my humiliation brings her pleasure, then I know she is not the Domme for me.

<tcklsHELP> Similarly, I gain little or no pleasure from serving a woman that I do not respect.

<tcklsHELP> I'm sure that I am not worthy of all Dommes, but not all Dommes are worthy of me, either. I doubt this is an uncommon sub opinion, but just in case people weren't sure about at least this male sub, I thought I'dmention it :).

<tcklsHELP> In the past, I have considered myself a switch. The reason for this is that I love doing to women many of the activities that they, as Dommes, do to me.Bondage, tickling, petting, HEAVY erotic teasing, (temporary) orgasm denial, etc. I just LOVE making a woman **BEG** for orgasm...almost as much as I love a Domme making me do the same. But here's why I don't think that is really switching.

<tcklsHELP> The reason why I enjoy topping is not because I enjoy the exercising of control or power, but simply because I know EXACTLY how wonderful it all feels for the sub.

<tcklsHELP> I am still doing it for HER pleasure. She doesn't need to be topping from the bottom, either. I have been told that I am quite capable of finding my way around as a top...giving her the very sensations I so love to receive. The fact is, it is her pleasure that most concerns me, and the looks of shear ecstasy on her face that make my blood boil...just as is the case when I am the sub.

<tcklsHELP> Someone asked me, is submission for men just a physical thing? Well, I can't speak for all men, but for me the answer is a resounding no AND yes. :) Could I cover my bases any better? :)

<tcklsHELP> Before I go on to explain this, I need to talk about two concepts: submission and subservience.

<tcklsHELP> According the American Heritage Dictionary, the primary definition of submit is "to yield or surrender to the will or authority of another." The primary definition for subservient is "subordinate in capacity or function."

<tcklsHELP> I think many people outside the BDSM community and probably quite a few in the community treat these words as synonymous...thinking that being submissive means that one is lesser in some way. I whole heartedly disagree.

<tcklsHELP> Though I thoroughly enjoy submitting to a woman, I am not subservient to them (hence my distaste for humiliation games). In my mind, men are not lesser than women (in general), and subs are not lesser than Dom/mes.

<tcklsHELP> The fact that I enjoy subbing rather than doming, makes me no less of a man. I enjoy pleasing women, but no woman shall control my life. I have actually left Dommes (yes, more than one) because they demanded that they be my primary concern...over my work and over my friends.

<tcklsHELP> Sure, in any relationship, sacrifices must be made on all fronts...but that's the point...on ALL fronts. I love pleasing women, but there are other motivating forces in my life.

<tcklsHELP> When I submit, I release control over only part of myself, not all of myself. I always retain the right to have an opinion and to express it...hiding my feelings are not part of the bargain, though tactfulness and respect are. I have the right to make my own choices and to say no (that is where limits come from) and I should not have to fear retribution for those choices...at least no more so than in any other relationship.

<tcklsHELP> Simply put, I am a free-thinking individual, equal to all others, who enjoys letting go of SOME of that when the situation is comfortable. My submission, as is the Domme's control, is a gift...one that should be cherished, honored, and never taken for granted.

<tcklsHELP> So, is it just physical? Given my flare for romance, no it isn't.

<tcklsHELP> There doesn't have to be any physical aspect for me to enjoy making a woman happy (we're not talking as a general rule about relationships, but in reference to specific acts).

<tcklsHELP> But yes, I do LOVE the physical aspects...which also do have some psychological aspects. My favorite part of BDSM is giving up physical control of my body to a woman.

<tcklsHELP> This could be everything from sitting quietly by her side because she wishes it to giving her a massage when she wants one (or just when I think she wants one) to being a helpless, bound boytoy.

<tcklsHELP> But, as I've mentioned, there are limits to what I enjoy. So, the psychological aspects have two parts. The first is the Domme convincing me to expand those limits...essentially submitting to her will and allowing her to do things that I fear. Yes, there is a BIG thrill in that.

<tcklsHELP> But, that level of submission requires an inordinate amount of trust...something that takes time to build and is not given easily. The other psychological aspect is that within the limits, I am completely helpless...unable to control my destiny. She can do whatever she wishes for as long as she wants and there is nothing (outside of a safeword) that I can do to stop her. That fact alone is an INCREDIBLE turn on!!

<tcklsHELP> Now, is this a turn on because I usually have such control over my destiny? Hmmm....I don't know. Could be, but I doubt it is a major factor. If that were the case, the more control I give up the more I would enjoy it.

<tcklsHELP> That is certainly not true. There are limits to what I give up, and though they may be expanded, it is usually under my terms (i.e. I have to agree to give them up...they are not simply taken).

<tcklsHELP> So that's my perspective on it all. As far as why I could not refuse doing this....itís simple...I know that me doing it is giving at least 2 women pleasure. Women who I consider to be good friends and for whom I have great respect.

<tcklsHELP> Now...an analysis of my behavior in channel... :)

<tcklsHELP> In channel , I still refer to the Doms as Sir. It is out of respect, and it is the culture...though I do not consider myself as subservient nor submissive to them. Unlike the case with Dommes, I will only heed the commands/requests of a Dom if it suits me. With Dommes, I will do as they say so long as they show me the respect I deserve as a sub. I will gladly kneel quietly at a Domme's feet when it is giving her pleasure. Though I have never been asked (thankfully :) I'm sure I would be QUITE bored doing the same for a Dom.

<tcklsHELP> So...do people now also understand why I so enjoy playing with my fellow subs? Whether they are Domme or not, I enjoy making women feel good....I see no difference here.

<tcklsHELP> I enjoy putting smiles on their faces, making them laugh, giving them comfort, and yeah...turning them on <eg>. That is why I find it so easy to become very submissive to a femsub who turns Domme. I enjoy pleasing Her, regardless of what status She bestows upon Herself. Yes, I also do enjoy making men happy, but it is in a VERY different way, and in by no means physical.

<tcklsHELP> So...any questions?

<sassysub> we will now be taking questions or comments...if you have a question pls type ? or comment ! and we will put you in a queue...we ask that you pls wait your turn to speak as to not confuse anyone...

* ticklslav huggles fNd for her help!

* fireNdark collapses in a heap at Krees' feet (LOL...yer handy)

<fireNdark> :)* tickls

<Kree> lol fNd

<sassysub> GA fnd

<fireNdark> tickls........I found interesting the use of submissive AND subservient. I had never thought about it like that.

<fireNdark> you gave me some things too ponder. Thanks!

<ticklslav> Thanks :)

<ticklslav> Thank you, hon!

<ticklslav> I've found a lot of "Dommes" will come in and immediately order us malesub to lick their boots or something without even getting to know us...that's asking for subservience...not submission

<sassysub> GA wolfkitn

<wolfkitn> you said something about loving begging but not wanting to be "debased".. where's the actual different lie?

<wolfkitn> ie, diff between begging/humiliation?

<ticklslav> i think it's a very fine line

<ticklslav> i'm trying to think of an example

<wolfkitn> *nod/smile*

<ticklslav> for me...begging is more of a response to teasing...

<ticklslav> it's very playful

<ticklslav> humilation / debasement is like calling the subs name

<wolfkitn> does it have to do with whether or not you feel like you have the respect of the other person?

<ticklslav> YES!!!!!!!!!!

<ticklslav> exactly!!!!!

* wolfkitn answers her own q. :)

<wolfkitn> okay, thanks. :)

<ticklslav> thanks :)

<sassysub> lol

<sassysub> GA Kree, Sir :o)

<ticklslav> well put, too ;)

<Kree> tickl I think it is wonderful that you have managed to make peace with the femsubs. Too many times I have seen others look down on male submissives and in some ways a male must be even stronger to show their submission than a female. It is sad that it is that way, but it is reality that you would have to face that. Have you found that your attitude inchannel and in real life has helped conquer that situation?

<ticklslav> actually, though...i don't think i show my submission any more than the females

<ticklslav> i rarely ask a Domme that i'm not friends with if there is anything i can do for them

<ticklslav> i assume if they want me, they'll ask for me...which is not what a lot of femsubs seem to do

<ticklslav> i'm not sure if i'm answering your question

<Kree> Have you faced the problem I mentioned?

<ticklslav> i have found, though, that being comfortable on IRC has helped me be more comfortable in RL with showing that type of affection

<ticklslav> hmmm...not any more so that the femsubs deal with from the HNGs

<Kree> and finding the respect you are due has not been a problem?

<ticklslav> except for those Femdommes looking for subserviance

<ticklslav> nope (see previous comment)

<Kree> that is a problem all submissives face . the Goddesses made morons too

<ticklslav> LOL!!!

<Kree> done

<fireNdark> LOL Kree

<wolfkitn> Kree- *laugh*

<ticklslav> thank you for the question, Sir :)

<sassysub> GA Teruah

<Teruah> Do you find that you separate scene time from other times, being more <or completely> equal in exchange of power outside play? And do you find as the relationship progresses you like your Mistress to take more control (Im especially interested in this as you are not into humiliation)?

<ticklslav> i actually "discovered" durring last weeks discussion that i'm not looking for a 24/7 kind of thing

<ticklslav> Yes, i am submissive, but i keep it mostly in the bedroom

<ticklslav> when it starts interferring with my vanilla life, i get uncomfortable

<ticklslav> now...if i met the right Domme...

<Teruah> you dont have a an SO you do this with yet?

<ticklslav> who taught me my full submissive potential

<ticklslav> that could change

<ticklslav> No, not yet :)

<Teruah> so you do think it would be nice to have her taking more control, releasing that?

* ticklslav blushes

<ticklslav> in the bedroom yes...outside i consider myself an equal in a partnership (if i were currently in a partnership)

<ticklslav> Does that answer your question?

<Teruah> I think so, thankyou :) done:)

<sassysub> GA sushi^

<ticklslav> Thank you, Teruah

<sushi^> I hope this doesn't sound stereo-typical, but can you tell me if you are in a demanding career? where you are the boss?

<ticklslav> i'm a graduate student

<ticklslav> so my time is completely my own

<sushi^> would you consider yourself a type A?

<ticklslav> LOL!!! Oh yes!! :)

<sushi^> thank you, confirming my stereotype :-)

<fireNdark> LOL

<ticklslav> lol!

<ticklslav> i'm assuming that you meant the stereotype

<ticklslav> of type A males enjoying submission?

<sushi^> yes confirming sterotype, realizing not all type A males enjoy submission...

<ticklslav> can't argue with that ;)

<sushi^> but perhaps many type A's do.

<sushi^> thanks :-) done

<sassysub> GA ldyStone

<sassysub> well, she's not here

<sassysub> GA fireNdark

<fireNdark> This is for all, an ommission if you will (Krees' ?)....

* sassysub plays the jeopardy tune

<Mauritus> Thank you for opening your discussion. I've appreciated it and have some ideas to ponder.

<fireNdark> I wasn't sure how I would respond to tickls at first finding out he's a male sub

<fireNdark> but I find that I treat him with as much respect and kindness as I do other subs in channel

<ticklslav> And it is very much appreciated ;)

<Kree> fNd I didnt know til tonight. but then I dont base respect on gender

<Teruah> is discussion open now?

<ticklslav> Kree..as it should be in both directions :)

<alena> I think...as we are already a minority by our interests...that we should never separate ourselves by judging each other on gender or any other aspect.

<sassysub> ticklbabe....you mentioned earlier that you don't approach Domme's that you don't know

<Kree> yes I agree tickl

<fireNdark> true, very true

<sassysub> if any of you have a ? or ! but wish to be anonymous, pls mssg an OP and we will talk for you *smile*

<fireNdark> sass....are there anymore in QUE at the moment?

<sassysub> woops...i lost my train of thought....sheesh

<sassysub> tickl...is there a particular reason why?

<sassysub> sorry, i had a ? :o)< /p>

<Kree> tickl when did you first discover the love of being tickled?

<Kree> <a question from the audience>

<ticklslav> sassy: i'm really not sure why

<ticklslav> i guess part of it is that i don't have much confidence in picking out the "good" Dommes just from a name

<ticklslav> i prefer to wait...

<ticklslav> get to know there personality on channel

<sassysub> i understand that

<fireNdark> so no different than the rest of us "subbabes" (male and female) ;)

* ticklslav hasn't really thought about it much

<ticklslav> i hope not :)

<fireNdark> ;)

<sassysub> thanks hon...

<Kree> <a question from the audience when you are ready>

<sassysub> after Kree's ? is answered...we'll open the discussion

<Kree> tickl when did you first discover the love of being tickled?

<ticklslav> Kree: i was about 22 when i first "discovered" my love of being tickled

<ticklslav> with 20/20 hindsight of course

<ticklslav> i see that my love of being tickled goes WAY back

<ticklslav> i used to top my babysitters from the bottom ;)

<Kree> lol

<wolfkitn> *lol*

<alena> hehe

<fireNdark> tsk, tsk

<Kree> goo goo tickle me dammit

<arora> lol

<sassysub> LOL

* ticklslav blushes

<sassysub> we'll open up the discussion now

<exploress> lol Kree

<MindFul1> howdy, Kree!

<ticklslav> LOL Kree :)

* Nordicia runs over and sits on her Master's lap holding on tight.

<sassysub> for those of you who came in late...the log will be posted by tuesday <i hope> on www.submission.net

<chynarose> tickl this was very enlightening and confirmed some things that are general to all subs.. and thank you for putting this together :)

* ticklslav hugs fNd and sassy for all their help and enthusiasm!!!

<Teruah> thanks ticklslv

<ticklslav> Thank sassy and fNd...they did the real work :)

<ticklslav> Thank you Everyone for listening to me babble :)

* fireNdark blushes

<Kree> tickl make sure oneof them didnt getyour watch

<Nordicia> it was very well-thought-out ticklslav...thank You.

<wolfkitn> i'll say something out loud that i said earlier *ahem* in a private message..

<chynarose> sassy and fNd... the wind beneath your wings :))

<fireNdark> tickls..."the myth and the man"

* sassysub shlurps ticklbabe cuz he's soooooo sassyshlurpable

<wolfkitn> the idea of ticklslav "kneeling quietly" is.. well, an interesting image. but.. accurate? ;)

* ticklslav giggles and schlurps sassy on da nose :)

<exploress> tickl, it was a pleasure to have met you. Thank you for sharing your insights :)

<ticklslav> LOL wolfkitn ;)

* sassysub sneezes

<ticklslav> :P

<Teruah> I found a few things very interesting about the discussion/..

<fireNdark> tickls, c'mere and "goo goo" for me.

<ticklslav> you're welcome exploress :)

<ProvokeMe> lol...goo goo?

<sassysub> would you like to elaborate, Teruah?

* ticklslav huggles fNd and goos :)

<Teruah> msubs are the largest in number in the community, yet some of you have trouble handling it?

<ticklslav> yes, please do :)

<ticklslav> Teruah...yes, You're QUITE correct!

<Nordicia> thank You firendark and sassy :)

<Teruah> Its true that in the wider vanialla society male submissiveness isn't valued, and it takes much bravery, but within our community?

<ticklslav> i think a lot of male subs really haven't thought about submission that much

<ticklslav> they're just looking to be used...toys

* chynarose needs to part for a bit.. see you in #sub thank you again all 3 for a very illuminating hour :)

<MaccDom> ticklslav, sassy and fNd, thank you. I just wish I'd been able to hear more!

<fireNdark> MaccDom sir...check the website in a day or so

<ticklslav> Teruah...well there is a kind of dichotomy between romantic flare and Machismo

<fireNdark> www.submission.net Like you all don't know it by heart already

<ticklslav> i think too many embrace machismo and forget the romance

<MaccDom> I think I'm lagged again.

<ticklslav> You're very welcome MaccDom ;)

<wolfkitn> i think many men think they're the same thing... ie, "i'm big and strong and, that's just what i do..."

<ticklslav> wow...really?

<Teruah> well I do have as theory about that romance thing:), it seems a lot of malesubs are married men out for kicks, or people seeking to use a dom for theior own ends with no thought of her, but I do not think that is true of all at all, not all rl msubs are swingers, many really are interesting in developing a relationship

<fireNdark> REMINDER: Special Friday Night Discussion this Friday....Gor part2

* sassysub quivers

<Teruah> err

* fireNdark trembles

<Teruah> translate to English LOL

* sassysub looks at rapture..you better be good, ya bot

* ticklslav smiles at Teruah...i couldn't agree more

<Teruah> Gor *spits*

<ticklslav> wolfkitn...yeah, I can see that

* sassysub smiles

<Teruah> Gor is such fun, then they ruin it all *sigh*

<Chaosmstr> Teruah.. you are entitled to your opinion on that, of course.. but please remember that some people LIKE the Gor lifestyle I am not one of them..

<Teruah> My honey is a painslut but also not into verbal humiliation at all, and neither am I

<fireNdark> LOL.....Teruah, if you come you gonna behave???

<sassysub> Teruah, we will be having Bear- and Zeb from Silk&Steel here to discuss their lifestyle...we are not having the discussion to argue over lifestyles but to get a better idea

<Teruah> it was my opion only:)

<Teruah> sassysub its agood idea, Ive done that too

<Kree> There are 2 sides to Gor. there are those that are serious about it and observe rituals which can be lovely. then there are those that treat it as Adult Dungeons and Dragons... the speakers will address he more serious aspects and not the BS play

<sassysub> i hope you can come, Teruah

<fireNdark> it's possible they feel the same way about D/s and ask questions of them

<wolfkitn> i've never stopped being amused by how *the same action* can be seen as a "sub" action or a "dom" action, just depending on who's doing it, and who's requested it, etc... :) :)

<wolfkitn> e.g., giving someone a bath. *grin*

<ticklslav> wolfkitn: **grin**

<arora> ooo. good point, wolfkitn

<ticklslav> wolfkitn: it's like dancing...it's all in the attitude :)

<wolfkitn> ticklslav- *ahem* :)

<Tusk`> is it over?

* ticklslav blushes at wolfkitn :)

<ticklslav> Tusk...we're just chatting about it freely now

<Tusk`> thanks tickle!

<sassysub> Tusk, the floor is open for discussion, pls feel free

<Tusk`> listening...:)

<Sea-Lace> goodnight everyone and thank you ticklslav

<fireNdark> tickls.......have you ever scened here as a Dom?

<ticklslav> fNd...nope

<ticklslav> i switched while in channel and nearly giggled myself outta my chair ;)

<ProvokeMe> LOL

<ticklslav> but never really scened :)

<fireNdar k> LOL

<ticklslav> i have scened as a Dom in private

<ticklslav> (on line)

<fireNdark> Tusk, check our website www.submission.net in a few days, we have a #Discuss area we post logs to

<Tusk`> great - thanks fNd

<fireNdark> tickls....were you any good?

<Tusk`> lol

* ticklslav blushes

<sushi^> thank you for illuminating discussion ticklslav, goodnight all

<wolfkitn> fireNdark- getitng right to the point, i see ;)

<ticklslav> so i am told :)

<sassysub> tickl, you obviously like tickling but would you consider pain as part of your play?

<ticklslav> i'd consider it...but i'd have to go VERY slowly

<ProvokeMe> I think you might need to refine the word

<ProvokeMe> "pain"

<wolfkitn> PM- yes! :)

<sassysub> would you do that pls, PM Sir?

<Kree> sassy for some tickling IS pain

<sassysub> true but he and i have discussed this before

* ticklslav gasps in horror!!

<ticklslav> **giggle**

<ProvokeMe> there are varying degrees of "pain" and what might be pain to you might not really be pain to another

<sassysub> i'm curious as to his answer now as opposed to who he was talking to the last time *smile*

<ticklslav> :)

<tkld^pink> I think pain is anything that makes you go ouch

<wolfkitn> may i add a word or two, here?

<sassysub> sure kitn

<ticklslav> sure wolfkitn ;)

* fireNdark is with tkp

<Tusk`> listening

<wolfkitn> there are things that hurt, that i like. there are things that hurt, that i don't like. i call the latter things "painful" and the others.. ahhh... :)

<wolfkitn> but that's just me.. ;)

<fireNdark> uncomfortable

<ticklslav> LOL!!!!!

<Tusk`> like a stubbed toe?

<ProvokeMe> bad definition... LOL

<ticklslav> i'm interested in trying things that make me go "ouch"...but it'd have to be slowly

<ProvokeMe> folks can work out.... go through pain.... marathon runners hit the wall and go through pain

<ticklslav> the thing i couldn't do is...

<ProvokeMe> doens;t make them masochist

* fireNdark puts hands on hips

<ticklslav> try it on IRC...i have no conception of what it feels like, so how could i possibly react?

<wolfkitn> for example. :) or.. a whipping that just doesn't do it for me.. in the wrong spots, too sudden, etc.

<wolfkitn> "sensual pain" isn't the same as "pain", even if they're both in scene.

<Kree> true wolfkitn

<sassysub> i understand, tickl

<ProvokeMe> hands on hips? what now? LOL

* fireNdark would like to know.....what tickls favorite "tickling" instrument is, ie: feathers, fingers, etc.

<ticklslav> LOL!

<Tusk`> lol, PM

<ticklslav> fNd: fingernails :)

* fireNdark coughs

* ticklslav pass fNd some Nyquil

<Tusk`> tickle torture... sorry i was so late.. tickleslav.. do you like giving only or getting, too

* ProvokeMe dcc's fNd some cough syrup

<ticklslav> Task: i enjoy both thoroughly! ;)

* fireNdark kisses Poke...."thanks sir"

* Kree has a better cure but will be nic

<Tusk`> :) do you get off? being tickled?

<ProvokeMe> yer welcome hon.... even if you do call me Poke

* fireNdark raises eyebrow at Kree

<Tusk`> ooo, Poke - i like that!!!!!, PM

<fireNdark> LOL.....I lay all claims to an part of that nick!!!!

* fireNdark runs and hides

<ticklslav> Tusk: yes, very much so ;)

<Tusk`> Poke is easy to type

* ProvokeMe looks at fNd...and crooks his finger at her

<ticklslav> i assume those who enjoy sensual pain feel very much the same way :)

<Tusk`> incredible, tickle... i can't even imagine it... I'll try tho

<ProvokeMe> I know those that enjoy NON sensual pain as well... LOL

<fireNdark> .................................ummmmm, you rang?

<ticklslav> Well, it make take a little tickling in the...umm...right place, but not much for it to work :)

<Kree> PM make her call you PokeMe

* ProvokeMe looks at fNd again and pats his lap....

<ProvokeMe> I have to give her a bit of leeway Kree.... she named me ProvokeMe to start with

<Kree> ahhhhhhhhh ok

* fireNdark stares up at Provoke....."ok, now tell him I do call you PokeMe as well"

<fireNdark> tickls, what one place on your body drives you the craziest to have tickled?

* ProvokeMe smiles.... yes hon... you do

<ticklslav> ACK!!! fNd :)

<ticklslav> well...my lower back, ass, and balls all rate about the same :)

* ticklslav really really really blushes

<sassysub> *perk perk perk perk*

<Tusk`> heya Kiten

<ticklslav> i can't believe i just said that

<fireNdark> don't blush, yer with family

<Tusk`> well, bye for now all

<fireNdark> Nite Tusk

<ticklslav> :)

<sassysub> lol

<sassysub> tickl, thank-you for sharing yourself w/us

<sassysub> i appreciate you bunches, babe

<ticklslav> you're very welcome!! :)

* ticklslav huggles sassy...it was a pleasure, hon!

<sassysub> if nobody has any ?s or comments i guess we can call it a night, folks

<ticklslav> Thanks for coming everyone! :)

* sassysub hugs tickl tight and lightly runs her nails down his sides....*kiss*

<fireNdark> :)* thanks "A"

* ticklslav shivers and purrs :)

<fireNdark> hey....I wanted to do that

<sassysub> lol...a male wench

<ticklslav> you can too :)

<sassysub> you can

<sassysub> lolol

* ticklslav can be such a slut

<sassysub> you ARE a slut, sweets

<fireNdark> easy too

<fireNdark> LOLOL

<ticklslav> LOL!!

<ticklslav> i'm not arguing :)

* fireNdark laughs

<wolfkitn> heh, i like that.. a male wench. :)

<wolfkitn> *lol* uh, thanks, sassy. ;)

<sassysub> wahcum

<fireNdark> my bed too be made. LOL

<fireNdark> afterwork meeting actualy.

* wolfkitn waves g'night.. (seeya in that other channel ;) )

<ticklslav> well, i'm gonna head over there too :)

<ticklslav> Thanks again sassy and fNd! it was fun!!!

<ProvokeMe> take care ticklslav and than you : )))

<Kree> tickl I enjoyed it

<Kree> and admire your sharing intimate facts

<ticklslav> Thank you, Sirs! :)

<ticklslav> LOL!!!!

& lt;ProvokeMe> I am sorry I missed most of this one

<sassysub> it was a good one, PM

<ProvokeMe> gonna have to get the log, as long as someone logged it