Bondage from the eyes of a submissive

Bondage from the eyes of a submissive
Speaker: andromda
April 27, 1997

Kree Hello, and good evening. The committee for #submission_discuss would like to welcome you all back for this week's presentation and discussion. Tonight's Hostess is ldywhisper who will introduce the speaker. We would like to remind all that the idea of discussions is for an exchange of ideas and learning. It is not a time for flaming or arguing over a point, but rather one of discussing. We ask all to respect the opinions of others.

Action: Kree As usual there will be a queue for questions and comments. If you have a question, type ?, for a comment type !. Thanks for coming and enjoy!

<Kree> whispr.......

<ldywhispr> thanks Kree, Sir..and thank you everyone for coming...please join me in welcoming andromda our speaker tonight...her topic is one I am certain we will all enjoy... "Bondage from the eyes of a submissive....welcome andromda

<andromda> Thank you ldywhispr..

<andromda> I planned this not to be real formal discussion but more of a question and answer type session.

<andromda> I thought I would start by telling you all a little about myself and how I became a submission and into bondage. :)

<andromda> Those of you who know me well already know most of this...

<andromda> I thought then I would tell you about what bondage is to me: how it feels, why I enjoy it, what some of the things my Master and I practice.

<andromda> First of all, I have been a submissive now for about 2 years now give or take a few weeks..

<andromda> I didn't get involved into BDSM until I was almost 30...

<andromda> I led a pretty "vanilla" life until then though I must admit I was quite promiscus (sp?) in college....

<andromda> I had had many fantasies involving bondage and S&M but never met anyone that I felt I could reveal these too or when I revealed them to my husband, he freaked out...Thought I was a little weird.

<andromda> Well my husband and I split up and one day at work I got bored and started looking through the personal ads...

<andromda> I was pretty lonely and decided I needed to find someone to at least go out to dinner with. :)

<andromda> I answered the add of a guy named Bob...It was a vanilla type personal....

<andromda> Anyways to make a very long story shorter, he was a Top....

<andromda> He wasn't a Dom then...He had only tied up women and never had one as a submissive or slave...

<andromda> He one day asked me about bondage and I jumped at the chance...

<andromda> I discoverd that I loved it....

<andromda> He got me hooked up to IRC so I could learn more about BDSM and D/s...I became totally enthralled with it...I started teaching him things. He slowly evolved from being just a Top to being a true Master....Someone that I am very happy to call my Master (and fiance) today.

<andromda> So that is my story...(in a nut shell)

<andromda> We have tried about every form of bondage that I can think of...I have been tied in every position humanly imaginable...We have even experimented with bondage through hyponotism...

<andromda> I can tell you that the thrill never decreases for me....My pulse still races when he pulls out the ropes...I love the feel of being tightly bound....It makes me feel very secure and protected...Which may seem very strange considering it also leaves me very vulnerable...

<andromda> I'm not a very good speaker and do much better when asked questions so at this time I would like to open up the floor to any one who may have a question...

<andromda> It is easier for me to describe things that you might want to know than to try to guess what you might want...

<ldywhispr> thank you andromda...we will now open the floor for discussion..if you have a question please type ? and a comment !, please wait until you are called on .to speak

<ldywhispr> Queue..Hawkwood, go ahead Hawkwood

<Hawkwood> Do you enjoy bondage as part of other sexual activities, or for its own sake?

<andromda> I enjoy both...

<andromda> Sometimes when I'm scared or feeling insecure, Pooh (my Master) will tie me up and just hold me...

<andromda> Usually that will calm me down and make me feel so much better.

<andromda> Many times he will also tie me up and we will just sit on the couch and watch TV...

<andromda> We also use bondage many times (not always) when we have sex...It is usually part of the foreplay.....since I'm often tied up in a way where intercourse would be very difficult if not impossible. :)

<andromda> Does that answer your question Hawkwood, Sir?

<Hawkwood> Yes. Thank you. :)

<Kree> After indicating a question or comment, please go ahead and type it to send, when called on just hit enter...thanks

<ldywhispr> go ahead slavetoy

<slavetoy> andromda you obviously have a great trust with your Master...i envy that...it is very hard to find. I have been into this lifestyle 10 years...you are truly blessed. I was wondering how do you feel about safewords? or if you practice your relationship with one?

<andromda> We have always had a safeword...I have never used it though.

<andromda> He is very good about constantly asking me if I am okay...If the ropes are too tight....If the blindfold or gag are okay...

<andromda> He has gotten very good at sensing me and what I may be feeling....

<andromda> I think it is very important to have safe words.....

<ldywhispr> go ahead The_Rook

<The-Rook> DO you have a 24/7 master/slave r'ship and how has the r'ship changed between you and your master

<The-Rook> ..after you two discovered bondage?

<andromda> Right now I have as close to a 24/7 master/slave relationship as we can have.

<andromda> Currently we live in different households but will soon be living together ..

<andromda> At that time our relationship will be as close to 24/7 as it can be with a small child in the house and our work schedules will allow. :)

<andromda> For part 2: When Pooh and I first started practicing bondage, that is all we did. He tied me up...teased me a bit...untied me and we had sex...

<andromda> Our relationship has now evolved into a more D/s relationship. He is truly my Master...He owns me completely and basically guides my life...

<andromda> We discuss important decisions but I have a set of guidelines that I follow at all times... :)

<andromda> I hope that makes sense. :)

<The-Rook> *nod* yup..thanks

<ldywhispr> QUEUE is OPEN

<andromda> Now for your question silk...

<silk{NK}> andro. . do you experience any transcendant or spiritial dimension to your submission

to your Master?

<andromda> Yes, I go into subspace quite often but not always...

<andromda> It is hard to describe how I feel about my Master....

<andromda> He is everything to me. We have been together on and off for 2 1/2 years...

<andromda> We have had lots of ups and downs but have finally ended up where we are...

<andromda> I yearn to serve him and to make him happy. It absolutely crushes me when I disappoint him...

<andromda> Does that answer your question silk?

silk{NK} nods to andro. . thank you

<andromda> I wasn't really sure what you were asking...

<ldywhispr> Queue slavetoy, go ahead slavetoy

<slavetoy> does the prospect of moving towards a live in relationship bring new fears it has for me i was wondering

<andromda> Yes it does...

<andromda> We have had many many many discussions on this...i mean i have had long term Master, but never live in

<andromda> Currently when we are together we are alone...

<andromda> When we move in together we will also have my son around which brings a whole new set of problems...

<andromda> We know that we will have to change things and I want him to take more control over my life...

<andromda> We know it won't be easy but it is also something that we are looking very forward to. :)

<slavetoy> thank you

<ldywhispr> Queue calesta,...go ahead calesta

<calesta> I have lived with Katianna for the whole time that we have been together

<calesta> By submitting totally to her, does that mean that I have to let her control my life?

<calesta> She hasn't done that so far

<andromda> No...it is up to each Master and sub/slave to decide what is right for them.

<andromda> Pooh far from controls my entire life...

<andromda> What I have asked from him is more structure in my life...

<andromda> I tend to go harry carry from one thing to the next...I need the structure and I know it so I have asked for it.

<andromda> Pooh and I still discuss almost everything.

<andromda> I think that the "ideal" situation differs greatly from couple to couple...

<andromda> What is all important is that the Dom/Domme and the sub/slave agree on the terms of the relationship. That both are getting what they want/need.

<calesta> Thanks

<ldywhispr> Queue Katianna..go ahead Katianna

<Katianna> What are your outlooks on a Master/Mistress that has more than one submissive?

<andromda> This point sort of hits a sore spot for me but I'll let you know my humble opinion which I know not everyone will agree with. :)

<Katianna> :)

<andromda> I think that is very difficult for a Master/Mistress to devote the time and energy that is needed to maintain more than one sub...

<andromda> I also think that it is very hard for the subs not to have jealousy towards the other....

<andromda> My Master had me in real life and another sub cyber...

<andromda> Both of us were extremely jealous of the other...

<andromda> We both had the same thoughts wondering what he was doing with other etc. etc.

<andromda> It was very hard on me....

<andromda> I came to the realization (that I sort of already knew) that I could never share my Master with another sub....

<MindFul1> ?

<andromda> I think it could work with the right people but I also think that jealousy is too inbreed in our society...

<andromda> But as I said it is just my humble opinion and many believe that it is entirely the Master/Mistress' choice as to how many slaves/subs they have.

<Katianna> Thanks

<MindFul1> andromeda, do you and your master use physical punishment in your relationship? For example, when you step outside the rules or expectations. If so, what sorts of punishments are employed?

<andromda> We do use physical punishment.

<andromda> Though Master has discovered that spanking/flogging/whipping are not punishments to me. I enjoy them way too much. :)

<andromda> He actually has come up with a point system for me...I get certain points for certain infractions (he determines the points). I then can work them off by doing certain chores...

<andromda> He knows I hate housework so most of my punishments involve cleaning...

<MindFul1> Then he probably doesn't use punishment that employs bondage in any way, am I right?

<andromda> He also does still spank me sometimes....but usually for minor infractions like forgetting to stand in the proper position or forgetting to put on my collar when I enter his apartment. :)

<andromda> No punishments involve bondage unless it is to be gagged while cleaning...

<andromda> Bondage is definitely not a punishment to me. :)

<MindFul1> okay, thanks! ga

<ldywhispr> Queue NinjaKawa, go ahead NK

<ldywhispr> errr NinjaKawa

<NinjaKawa> When did you discover, that you enjoyed BDSM (forgive me if you have answered this)

<andromda> Well I had always had an interest in it....

<andromda> I just could never find someone to help me explore it..

<andromda> I really discovered I loved it the first time Pooh tied me to the bed....

<NinjaKawa> How old were you at the time you first found out about it and howe?

<andromda> I didn't really experience it until I was almost 30 years old...

<andromda> I found about about BDSM when I was in college and read a few things on it.

<andromda> I knew then it was something that I wanted to explore but then I met and fell in love with a guy who the whole idea sickened. :)

<andromda> Then after my marriage ended, I met Pooh and *poof* here I am where I am today. A person who couldn't live with out it. :)

<andromda> Does that answer your questions NK?

<NinjaKawa> Yes, thank you :)

<andromda> Thank you all for listening to my ramblings. :)

<ldywhispr> at this time we will give the floor to Kree for an announcement....

<ldywhispr> at this time the formal part of our discussion is concluded...however, we would like to now open the discussion to any and all....please stay as long as you like and enjoy your discussion channel

<ldywhispr> thank you andromda..for your discussion...we all appreciate your candidness and willingness to share your experience

<andromda> Thank you for having me ldywhispr. :)

ldywhispr smiles and hug andromda

<slavetoy> you did a great job andro thank you

<andromda> thank you slavetoy. :)

<silkysoft> thank you andromda :)

<Kree> thanks andromda well done

<MindFul1> thank you very much, andromda! :)

<slavetoy> i was nervous when i did mine

<alexisCDS> thank you andromda:)

Action: flower^ applauds andromda :)

<andromda> I was extremely nervous...

<slavetoy> hugs

Kree looks a andromda's chair and goes for a mop

Kree ducks

<andromda> I wasn't that nervous, hon...LOL

Action: andromda hugs slavetoy...

<flower^> lol

<lodi> thanks all---very interesting

Action: prudence looks around.

<Kree> LOL LOL

Action: prudence appears to have arrived too late.

<NinjAway> Thankyou and well done andromda

<NinjAway> When will the logs be posted?

<slavetoy> bye all

<TheKttN> soon, MtnSpirit is still settling in with his move:)

<prudence> bye slavetoy

<ldywhispr> thanks again everyone for coming..see you all next week